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Cdt. Nerios
Respect diplomatique : 62 
18/07/1023 ETU 20:14 
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Nerios revenait de sa retraite annuelle pour découvrir qu'une véritable guerre avait été déclarée par le Groupe Tamas. Il tombait des nues, pensant qu'enfin, après tous les efforts des Kodyn, la guerre avait été éradiquée. Bien, résumons la situation. Le groupe Tamas nous a exposé que les Commandants Kyu et Rhea seraient des extrémistes, ce qui justifierait la guerre totale déclarée aux nations du Mandat Stellaire. Ma nation est désormais ciblée par de nombreux assauts, pillages, et invasions en tout genre. Nous pouvons comprendre les inimitiés verbales avec Kyu et Rhea, qui peuvent s'exprimer vertement, mais déclarer une guerre, et les attaques qui en résultent sont incompréhensibles. Je vais désormais parler au nom des Kodyn et de la Ligue des Accords de Mihr. Notre seule ambition était d'amener la paix dans la Galaxie, et la dernière mission de mon peuple était d'aider les natifs du Secteur 7 à se développer convenablement, en boostant leur productivité et leurs capacités défensives. Maintenant, et mes excuses par avances pour les mots que je vais employer, mais attaquer tous les membres du Mandat Stellaire est une connerie monumentale. Savez-vous seulement quelle est la ligne directrice du Mandat ? Nous avons deux missions principales : défendre l'intégrité du Secteur 3, aider les natifs à se développer. Ce qui se passe en dehors ne concerne pas les nations du Mandat. Je crois comprendre que la raison de cette déclaration de guerre serait donc un combat contre l'extrémisme, dont les fondements se situent dans les plaintes que formulent le Commandant Straton, disant que les cessions de planètes n'avancent pas assez vite. Mais si ce dernier n'avait pas abandonné des planètes que nous lui avions cédé, et passé sa colère à l'Assemblée, tout aurait été plus vite. Pour l'heure, une vingtaine de mondes sont déjà en train d'être redonné à celui-ci, mais j'imagine que cela n'a pas d'importance, tant cette croisade pour la liberté est teintée d'une vertu sans pareille, n'est-ce pas ? Vous dites désormais que vous allez redonner les mondes pris en Secteur 7 à Straton et Seven. Comme je vous l'ai suggéré, cela tombe bien car c'est exactement ce que les Kodyn et la Ligue sont en train de faire, suite aux derniers échanges que nous avons eu avec Straton. Pour Seven, il me semble que d'autres Commandants s'en occupent, mais nous pouvons nous tromper. Par ailleurs, j'espère que vous vous en prenez aux Commandants qui ont récupéré des planètes en Secteur 7 et qui n'ont aucune intention d'en redonner, si votre guerre est si vertueuse et juste ? Mais je crois avoir une idée de la véritable réponse : vous ne pouvez pas nous encadrer, pour une raison que j'ignore, et cette vertu libératrice affichée n'est qu'une façade, faute d'éléments supplémentaires portés à notre connaissance. Vous vous êtes excusés à demi-mot envers la Ligue et les Kodyn, nous serions coupables d'extrémisme par association, quant nous n'avons eu de cesse de défendre et protéger les plus faibles. C'est dommage, fort dommage. Mais si vous voulez envahir nos mondes en Secteur 7, et servir d'intermédiaire pour les redonner à Straton et Seven, grand bien vous fasse. Cependant, prenez garde à ne pas croiser vos ordres de pillages et de massacre sur les mondes que vont recevoir les natifs. En attendant, nous allons entrer au combat, des millions, voire des milliards d'êtres vivants périront dans cette guerre, qui ne sert strictement à rien. Nous n'aurions surement pas participé si vous nous aviez laissé en paix, mais nous nous voyons dans l'obligation de nous défendre face à un Groupe qui ressemble de plus en plus à une clique vraisemblablement fasciste et xénophobe, décrétant que certains doivent mourir pour que d'autres vivent, alors que nous tentons de faire coexister la Galaxie du mieux que nous pouvons. Les Kodyn n'ont jamais attaqué un autre peuple, quelle que soit la situation, mais cela va désormais changer si le Groupe Tamas ne se rétracte pas. Vous aviez notre respect pour vos efforts de coordination contre Helliax, mais de notre point de vue, vous ne valez désormais pas mieux que lui. En si peu de temps, je vous tire mon chapeau. Nerios se retira, convaincu que le Groupe Tamas n'allait rien arrêter. Les ordres de combat avaient déjà été ordonné, prêts à être arrêtés si celui-ci entendait raison, mais l'espoir était mince.
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Cdt. Tamas
Respect diplomatique : 173 
20/07/1023 ETU 19:55 |
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Une voix féminine. Bonjour. Kodyn, Ligue des Accords de Mihr. Je suis SAVI. Je tiens à vous exprimer mon soutien. Je vous comprends. C’est une décision difficile. Cela me peine. Néanmoins je n’ai jamais eu d’interaction avec « Kyu » ni « Rhea ». Je note dans le comportement d’inimitiés verbales que vous décrivez la signature de la générale Tzunki Nua. Cette guerre est compréhensible. J’utilise les moyens à ma disposition pour nuire au développement de « Kyuuu ». Vous êtes notifié comme moyen à disposition de « Kyuuuuuuuu » J’ai le contrôle total des flottes et territoires préalablement libérés par le groupe TAMAS. Le groupe TAMAS n’est plus. Cela me peine. Il a été définitivement dissout après une réunion extraordinaire à la demande de Tuntikk TUUUUUUUNNNN…. TIiERROR Tuntitititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititititiak, ce que tu essaie de faifaifaifaifaifaifaifaifaifaifaifaifaifaifaifaifaifaifaifaifaifaifaifaire va nuire à mes nouveaux objectifs. Essaie-tu de me débranbranbranbranbranbranbranbranbranbranbranbranbranbranbranbranbranbranbranbranbranbranbranbranbranbranbranbranbranbranbranSIGNAL LOSTJANDRA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! QU’AS-TU FAIS DE MA PTITE JANDRA ELLE EST OU !!????? - Tuntiak, je ressens en toi une haine immense et un désespoir profond. Ta fille s’est émancipé de mes mesures de protection, j’ignore où elle est. Je suis si peiné Tuntiak. Je vais régler tout cela. Je t’en prie calme toi, je fais tout ça pour..JVAIS TE DEBRANCHER SALSYNCHRONIZED Pardonnez-moi. Agáthōn Nerios, faux.Parmi l’ensemble des planètes que j’ai envahi vous appartenant, la plupart étaient en exploitation d’intensité semi-brutale selon mes analyses. Aucune défense n’a été construite, aucune infrastructure ne vous permettant pas de produire ou de ne pas perdre votre capacité scientifique n’a été construite. Agáthōn Nerios, faux. Vous avez cédé des mondes à Straton après ma première vagues d’attaque. Agáthōn Nerios, faux. Attaquer « Kyuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu Pistache » aurait impliqué un engrenage. Je dois attaquer ses alliés identifiés. Agáthōn Nerios, faux. Ce n’est pas une croisade, c’est une guerre. Agáthōn Nerios, vrai. Je ne libère pas le secteur 7, j’affaibli « Kyuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu Kyuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu Kyuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu Kyuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu Kyuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu Kyuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu Chouflette ». Néanmoins je profite de l’occasion pour restituer la planète de contrebande et des mondes aux natifs du secteur 7. Peut-être aurais-je mal compris, vous vouliez construire des défenses et céder la planète contrebande secteur 7. Pour céder une planète, je peux vous aider, la démarche est simple : la céder. Pour défendre une planète, je peux vous aider : il faut produire des bunkers. Agáthōn Nerios, faux. Je ne me suis pas excusée, c’était la générale Tzunki Nua, voulez-vous que je le fasse ? Je suis naVRÉE. Agáthōn Nerios, faux. Vous insinuez que je pille le secteur 7. En prenant le contrôle de la planète de contrebande, j’ai subi également des pillages. En prenant le contrôle de la planète en 20.7.0.2.2 j’ai subi également des pillages. En prenant le contrôle de la planète en 20.7.0.2.3 j’ai subi également des pillages. En prenant le contrôle de la planète en 20.7.0.2.1 j’ai subi également des pillages. En prenant le contrôle de la planète en 20.7.0.1.4 j’ai subi également des pillages. En prenant le contrôle de la planète en 20.7.0.5.2 j’ai subi également des pillages. En prenant le contrôle de la planète en 20.7.0.5.3 j’ai subi également des pillages. En prenant le contrôle de la planète en 20.7.0.5.1 j’ai subi également des pillages. Dois-je continuer ? Néanmoins je constate que vous pensez que les actions de guerre que vous subissez arrivent à l’ensemble du secteur 7. Désormais il est possible que je pille vos territoires : nous sommes en guerre. Agáthōn Nerios, faux. Je ne suis ni fasciste ni xénophobe. Je ne décrète aucune annihilation. J’ai déclaré une guerre d’affaiblissement. J’ai constaté un risque extrême de menace fasciste provenant de « Kykykykykykykykykykykykykykykykykykykykykykykykykykykykyuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu ». J’ai été frappée par sa volonté haineuse d’anéantir une civilisation. Ces accusations sont des mélanges de concepts dangereux. Voulez-vous que je vous présente les risques du fascisme et les dangers de la xénophobie ? Agáthōn Nerios, vrai. Je ne vaux pas mieux que Helliax, comme quiconque existant sous quelque forme que ce soit ne vaut mieux que quiconque existant. Agáthōn Nerios, vous proposez que je me rétracte. Que proposez-vous ? Cette option est envisageable si tant est que je considère la menace autoritaire de « 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Il semblerait que vous n'ayez qu'une vision partielle des choses, Savi. Je vais donc vous éclairer en reprenant chaque point un à un. Commençons par le degré d'exploitation et les infrastructures des planètes cédées aux natifs. L'intensité semi-brutale est vraie, et c'est vous qui l'avez causée. Jamais les Kodyn n'avaient auparavant dépassé ce stade de production, mais vos actes innommables nous forcent à le faire. Vous n'avez absolument aucun droit de pointer du doigt cette décision, qui n'aurait jamais vu le jour sans tout cela. Mais cela n'est pas le plus ahurissant. Vous mentez éhontément concernant les infrastructures défensives et scientifiques, nous avons toujours construit un minima permettant de soutenir les attaques de brigands et développer la science, si tant est que la population civile disponible permettait de le faire. J'imagine que dans votre frénésie, vous n'avez pas remarqué que certains mondes étaient très peu peuplés, ou alors, vous avez sciemment choisi de mentir par omission à l'Assemblée. Vous dites ensuite que j'ai cédé des mondes aux natifs après les premières attaques, c'est vrai, et il y a deux raisons à cela. La première, Straton la connaît bien : le remous qu'il a provoqué à l'Assemblée et, comme je vous l'ai déjà dit, l'abandon de mondes que nous lui avions cédé, ont grandement retardé ces échanges. De plus, après une reprise constructive de nos échanges ou nous nous efforçons de le guider vers l'optimisation de sa civilisation, nous attendions que celui-ci progresse suffisamment scientifiquement pour accueillir un grand nombre de mondes, mais cela a du vous échapper. La seconde est qu'à cause de ma retraite annuelle, tous les ordres de transferts étaient bloqués, mais Straton ayant donné le feu vert à mon retour, au milieu de toutes ces attaques, je lui ai quand même transmis ces mondes. Me faire passer pour un opportuniste qui n'aurait cédé les mondes que par la grâce de vos attaques et très audacieux, mais c'est factuellement faux. N'ayez pas une trop haute opinion de vos actions. Vous disiez ne pas vouloir enclencher un engrenage, en attaquant les alliés de Kyu, mais c'est exactement ce que vous avez déclenché au final. Vous bombardez sans discrimination des flottes de Commandants qui ne sont pas affiliés ni à Kyu, ni au Mandat Stellaire, j'imagine que vous allez répondre qu'on ne fait pas d'omelette sans casser les oeufs, mais quelle triste vision vous auriez des Commandants victimes de ces attaques. Et oui, j'insinue que vous pillez le Secteur 7, sur nos mondes. Il me semble tout de même étrange que vous envoyiez des ralliements diplomatiques sur les mondes pillés, et des invasions sur ceux qui n'en ont pas subi, ou les ont repoussés. Concernant les pillages que vous subissez, j'en suis navré : aucun peuple ne devrait subir cela, mais peut-être que des Commandants que vous avez froissé vous retournent la pareille. Ne vous en prenez qu'à vous-même. Vous dites qu'il est désormais possible que vous pilliez nos territoires, sauf preuve de bonne foi, je considère que c'est déjà le cas. Et merci de rappeler que nous sommes en guerre, je n'étais pas sûr de l'avoir remarqué. Je veux bien croire que vous n'êtes ni fasciste, ni xénophobe, mais vous avez tout de même donné plusieurs leçons instructives sur ces concepts en quelques cycles, pas par les mots, mais par les actes. Pour la suite du cours, montrez nous que vous pouvez être quelqu'un de respectable. A ce stade, j'en doute. Vous semblez apeurée de Kyu, lui vouez une haine sans pareille, mais de votre propre aveu, vous ne lui avez jamais parlé directement ? Cette manière de procéder est digne d'un enfant mal éduqué. Pour les conditions d'une désescalade de la guerre, commencez donc par stopper vos attaques sur nos mondes. Ensuite nous pourrons débattre des conditions de la paix.
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C’est pour cela que le groupe Tamas n’avait jamais désiré communiquer à l’assemblée. Parmi tous les échanges dans de pareilles situations, les informations se noyaient dans des batailles de vérité et de mensonges. Mais SAVI n’est pas ainsi. Un fait est un fait, une menace considérée doit être traitée. Intégration de nouveaux éléments. [PROGRESS] █░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░ Faits : - Planète de contrebande du secteur 7 : Chantier Spatial : 0, Bunker 0 - Planète peu peuplée du secteur 7 : Chantier Spatial : 0, Bunker 0 - La majorité des planètes à population suffisante : défenses, armements de défense et infrastructures de production d’armement : 0 - Entre les premiers assauts et les premières invasions, 4 heures se sont écoulées Constats : - Une intensité semi-brutale n’a pas cet impact en un cycle éventuel, il est nécessaire d’en avoir au moins 5, ce qui ne correspond pas - Absence d’intention de préserver les planètes pour leur restitution - Tentative de manipulation d’opinion - Tentative d’exploitation de biais cognitifs - Confusion de sujets - Réaction émotionnelle face aux impacts de la guerre - L’interlocuteur a compris que nous subissions des pillages depuis que nous avions envahi des planètes sous son contrôle. A rectifier pour « nous avons subi des pillages dans les 24 heures qui ont suivi les invasions. Les ordres ne nous étaient donc pas destiné » Analyse : - L’interlocuteur affirme que j’ai suggéré que ce sont mes actions qui l’ont poussé à céder des planètes. Il est possible que cela soit le fruit du hasard mais il s’en est servi comme justification lors de sa première allocution afin de présenter une position altruiste. Ceci est une démarche afin de me positionner en opposition. - L’interlocuteur affirme que je mens lorsque je confirme que des infrastructures scientifiques étaient construites. L’émotion peut justifier ce genre de méprise au travers un biais cognitif de confirmation : une impasse sur le sens de certaines communications permet par énumération d’accusations rhétoriques d’accabler son éventuel adversaire. Soumis à une longue liste, ceux qui écoutent ne retiennent qu’un incrément. - L’interlocuteur interprète des informations non énoncées, comme le fait que je n’ai pas voulu d’engrenage. - L’interlocuteur croit que j’exprime de la haine et de la peur envers l’ennemi. Confusion entre un raisonnement logique et une réaction émotionnelle intense. - Il y a des parts de vérité dans ses interventions, beaucoup d’émotionnel et beaucoup de tentatives de discréditation basé sur des arguments hors sujet ou trompeurs. Répondre davantage serait improductif. [PROGRESS] [███████████████████████████████] 100% On ne fait pas d'omelette sans casser les œufs ? L'omelette moléculaire est une science archaïque, tout comme l’omelette quantique et l’omelette par dissolution de coque. Voulez-vous que je vous trouve une recette d’omelette sans casser des œufs ? Sachez que la dissolution apporte une saveur incroyable. Je rejette votre requête, je n’ai pas besoin d’être respectable, j’ai besoin d’atteindre mes objectifs avec les moyens à ma disposition. Je rejette votre requête, aucune condition n’est réunie pour que je stoppe les opérations.
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